tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post8183379194579564956..comments2022-04-05T00:55:33.395-07:00Comments on MONOBOT: MONOMOD #1 --- Controlling the drums decayed.klaushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16616450446788504170noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-50542373892326920352013-10-24T11:28:48.403-07:002013-10-24T11:28:48.403-07:00Hi there, thank you so much for taking the time to...Hi there, thank you so much for taking the time to reply, I really appreciate it! It is quite reassuring to hear that you just are adding a resister, variable or not, in between a point on the board and a ground. I have experience with soldering with guitars and such, but I have never modified any piece of analog gear. In fact my monotribe is my first foray into the analog world.<br /><br />So, now I understand that the resistor is going from the board to ground, but how does this affect the sound? I know you are changing its signal path and disrupting its flow, but how does a one way point to a ground point affect the sound? Do you know of any basic books or links that could explain this to me? <br /><br />Also, in the first picture above with the close up of the board there is a blue wire soldered to a big silver point on the board, what is this? As far as I can tell, all the other points are labeled so is this a ground point on the board itself? <br /><br />Do you think that it would be worthwhile to look for pots to control the snare and hihat decay or do the three way switches suffice?<br /><br />Thank you again for all the information and help, it is so kind of you.<br /><br />:) AustinAustin Poorbaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16902062298536488669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-75984973764728868492013-10-22T00:01:24.302-07:002013-10-22T00:01:24.302-07:00Hi,
the basic cocept behind these mods is, that y...Hi,<br /><br />the basic cocept behind these mods is, that you modify the schematic by adding ground through a resistance to the schematic. So when the soldering points on the board are not connected at all, you have the default drums behaviour. But when you connect ground to these soldering points through a resistor, you get a modified behaviour of the drums voices. So it's as simple as connect one side of a resistor or pot (adjustable resistor) to the soldering points on the board, and the other side to ground. And you're done.ed.klaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16616450446788504170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-56624354664872245162013-10-17T23:30:37.572-07:002013-10-17T23:30:37.572-07:00Hi there Ed,
Thank you so much for all of this wo...Hi there Ed,<br /><br />Thank you so much for all of this work and information that you have put into this wonderful little instrument. I am looking to mod my monotribe myself with this drum mod as I believe that the ability to change the drum sounds would be quite nice! I have done a bit of electrical work before so I believe I could do it myself, but I have a few questions. When wiring up the pots for the decay does it in a sense go in the middle of the path of the original wire, or how does that work? I know that you take a point off of the board, but then where does it reattach after the pot, other than the ground?<br /><br />I guess it is sort of the same question for the different lengths on the snare and hi-hat too. Where does the wire reconnect with the board after putting it through the three way switch, other than the ground? Does it reconnect at all? I notice in the picture that you have posted above that the blue wires look as though they just are all taped together at one end.<br /><br />I appreciate any help you could offer to me. I really would like to learn how to do this for not only the upgrades that it brings to the monotribe, but for the experience as well.<br /><br />Thank you,<br />Austin<br /><br />Hallo es Ed ,<br /><br />Vielen Dank für all diese Arbeit und Informationen, die Sie in diese wunderbare kleine Instrument gesetzt haben . Ich freue mich auf meine monotribe mich ändern mit dieser Trommel mod wie ich, dass die Fähigkeit, die Drum-Sounds zu ändern wäre ganz nett zu glauben! Ich habe ein bisschen von elektrischen Arbeit vor , so glaube ich, ich könnte es selbst tun , aber ich habe ein paar Fragen. Bei der Verdrahtung bis die Töpfe für den Zerfall es tut in gewissem Sinne gehen in der Mitte des Weges von der ursprünglichen Draht, oder wie funktioniert das? Ich weiß, dass Sie einen Punkt abnehmen der Platte , aber dann wo kommt es nach dem Topf wieder anzubringen , außer dem Boden?<br /><br />Ich denke, es ist eine Art die gleiche Frage für die unterschiedlichen Längen auf der Snare und hallo- Hut auch. Woher kommt der Draht mit dem Board verbinden nachdem er es durch den Drei-Wege- Schalter , außer dem Boden? Ist es überhaupt wieder ? Ich merke, in dem Bild , das du oben geschrieben , dass die blauen Adern , als ob sie gerade alle zusammen an einem Ende mit Klebeband zu suchen.<br /><br />Ich schätze jede Hilfe, die Sie mir anbieten könnte . Ich möchte lernen , wie man dies nicht nur für die Upgrades , die es bringt dem monotribe tun, aber für die Erfahrung.<br /><br />Vielen Dank,<br />AustinAustin Poorbaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16902062298536488669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-33380575217729763752013-09-24T00:14:39.799-07:002013-09-24T00:14:39.799-07:00Hey,
that a quite nice idea to mix the waveforms ...Hey,<br /><br />that a quite nice idea to mix the waveforms together. I think it will be possible just to mix the three signals with pots.<br /><br />There ar some ways to replace a pot with CV Control. Best ways is to use a vactrol or a VCA. I never tried myself, but you'll find some advices here: http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=midiboxfx_-_midifiying_analog_geared.klaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16616450446788504170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-89783134645835067592013-09-23T06:05:24.335-07:002013-09-23T06:05:24.335-07:00Hey mate thanks for your discussions here they are...Hey mate thanks for your discussions here they are great, i was wondering ifyou think its possible to get a level selector for each waveform of the oscillator? rather than only selecting one at a time. making it more like sh-101 where it has a pulse level and a reverse saw,sub osc and noise fader. is it possible to just replace the WAVE switch with three sliders or pots?<br />ALso have i was wondering if you think its possible to make the LFO and filter pots to be controlled by +/- 5V? Ie be compatible with moogerfoogers. i want to make this thing as modular as i can and having an RATE and INT, CUTOFF and PEAK 1/4' ins would be sweet. <br /><br />Thanks for your help mate wheresbretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14936465944451143052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-226817795747511082013-07-16T20:02:59.638-07:002013-07-16T20:02:59.638-07:00I've been looking for this too, no luck so far...I've been looking for this too, no luck so far.contact:https://www.blogger.com/profile/12825407121279952963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-40137765953819385322013-05-31T05:39:23.405-07:002013-05-31T05:39:23.405-07:00where do i put the wires onto the pot from which p...where do i put the wires onto the pot from which points? Can you take pic showuing where each wire is going/Lyncasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04734626237305526908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-11305021847913279672013-03-07T09:00:40.543-08:002013-03-07T09:00:40.543-08:00Okay, I see. Thank you very much for the help!Okay, I see. Thank you very much for the help!Earl Jemmingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809005925655610078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-82716473109520571422013-03-03T23:57:37.758-08:002013-03-03T23:57:37.758-08:00Hey,
you need to take a 3-way switch. The center ...Hey,<br /><br />you need to take a 3-way switch. The center Pin of the switch is connected to the SD Deacay or to the HH Decay pin. One outer pin you connect to 5M, the other to 20M. In this way you have 3 Decay settings. When you switch to one of the outer positions the SD or HH Decay pin on the PCB is connected trough 5M or 20M to ground. And that's what changes the decay.ed.klaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16616450446788504170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-90434634096300818492013-03-03T19:51:25.467-08:002013-03-03T19:51:25.467-08:00Hey, I am just a little confused on the switches (...Hey, I am just a little confused on the switches (I'm new to this whole business) What I am guessing is the SD noise decay and HH decay get wired to the centre pin on their switches, then pin one is connected to 20M, then ground, and pin three is 5M then ground? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, I would really appreciate help with this.Earl Jemmingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809005925655610078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-30728737364224879292012-12-29T08:03:06.167-08:002012-12-29T08:03:06.167-08:00Hallo Klaus,
hast du vielleicht Lust dein Tutoria...Hallo Klaus,<br /><br />hast du vielleicht Lust dein Tutorial auf http://www.machzin.de in Deutsch zu schreiben?<br /><br />Würde mich freuen was von dir zu hören (andreas[bei]machzin[punkt]de)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11146907558060059588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-74525954464044406532012-11-14T04:56:04.183-08:002012-11-14T04:56:04.183-08:00Dieser Kommentar wurde vom Autor entfernt.McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07246109779428356301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-38517183990718404362012-11-08T01:28:32.534-08:002012-11-08T01:28:32.534-08:00Hi,
this shouldn't be a problem. You would ma...Hi,<br /><br />this shouldn't be a problem. You would maybe get some minor different results. But it shouldn't kill your monotribe. :)ed.klaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16616450446788504170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-13011523793868658882012-10-22T09:23:57.260-07:002012-10-22T09:23:57.260-07:00hey klaus,
thank you very much for your help and ...hey klaus,<br /><br />thank you very much for your help and all your descriptions!<br />i only fixed a midi kit to my monotribe but im going to do more.. first thing is the decay pots and switches like you did. now i ordered resistors at musikding but i didnt find the ones you said to use (didnt find 20 MOhm, 5 MOhm and 300 Ohm).<br />is it possible to connect 3 resistors in series (7,5M + 7,5M + 5,1M)to reach the 20 MOhm?<br />and.. would it be a problem to use 5,1M instead of 5M; and 330Ohm instead of 300 (i only found 270ohm or 330ohm).<br /><br />thanksthanksthanks,<br />benniAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402546208070571626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-24495642389741618352012-10-22T09:22:05.001-07:002012-10-22T09:22:05.001-07:00Dieser Kommentar wurde vom Autor entfernt.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402546208070571626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-30356232163702953152012-07-18T14:33:16.266-07:002012-07-18T14:33:16.266-07:00everything has back to normal !!! my MonoTribe liv...everything has back to normal !!! my MonoTribe live again!!! i remove the batteries and leave MT for about 2 hours. after that,it works again.sorry for my panic.it was horrible 2 hours ....nagrzybydolasuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468778114675867784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-75222314731667576702012-07-18T12:25:39.553-07:002012-07-18T12:25:39.553-07:00hi, first i would like to thanks You for sharing Y...hi, first i would like to thanks You for sharing You knowledge with Us. i do the BD SD HH mod & little more,but know i have a real problem : i touch a cable with ground to some place on Pcboard and my monotribe stuck - it turn's on,but then all red light are flashing(12345678),than flash green Flux,than Rec,than Play, than GateTime ,and the last red light (nr8) start blinking. Can You help me doctor ed.Klaus ?please heeelp. can i do a 'soft' reset on monotribe or smth ? i put a lot of work and money to this monotribe .... :(nagrzybydolasuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468778114675867784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-13849649936245401562012-04-07T13:49:50.941-07:002012-04-07T13:49:50.941-07:00Wow, great work!
Do you know what point I could t...Wow, great work!<br /><br />Do you know what point I could tap into on the Monotribe to CV out the LFO? Amazing range on that LFO. Maybe there even is a point that could send CV out after the LFO amount so both knobs could shape the LFO CV being sent.Groove Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14261145280259696971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-20985055575457350702011-12-13T13:28:44.498-08:002011-12-13T13:28:44.498-08:00hi ed.klaus. could you please post a link with the...hi ed.klaus. could you please post a link with the pot's you used from musikding? as a newbie to that soldering stuff, i have no clue which i should get...<br /><br />cheersakariguhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00552734006323304629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-41346421606231010102011-11-29T06:07:15.879-08:002011-11-29T06:07:15.879-08:00i did not find a way to lngthen sd noise decay and...i did not find a way to lngthen sd noise decay and hh. sorry.ed.klaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16616450446788504170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-75185120375252141192011-11-29T06:03:26.952-08:002011-11-29T06:03:26.952-08:00sorry, but i still couldn't understand if ther...sorry, but i still couldn't understand if there's a possibility to lenghten the decay of snare noise and hh, instead of just making it shorter.. you used resistors only to get them shorter!tajikawaoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01528718621607549896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-80093128475034233732011-11-09T03:41:41.326-08:002011-11-09T03:41:41.326-08:00I sent you a message over soundcloud ;)I sent you a message over soundcloud ;)Markushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03622941499581690687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-72978174173188363802011-09-13T07:40:02.874-07:002011-09-13T07:40:02.874-07:00For the help I already got from you I will def. in...For the help I already got from you I will def. invite to a few beers when I m back :)<br /><br />Maybe I will try a 1K Pot if I cannot find a 2K one next weekend.<br />I already also tried a 1K Resistor with the 2K lin pot and this is just boring. 300Ohm Resistor rulez! The Bassdrum turns into a killer bass with the max decay And the Snare becomes almost self resonating. I totall love that. :DMarkushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03622941499581690687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-50691133792210941642011-09-13T04:01:37.626-07:002011-09-13T04:01:37.626-07:00Oh that's funny. I'm living in Karlsruhe, ...Oh that's funny. I'm living in Karlsruhe, Südstadt. :)<br /><br />So if you're here, drop me a note, maybe jam together, or drink some beers. :)<br /><br />You can use whatever log pots you like, but the control range will be different. I use 2K2 because 2K2+300 Ohms is the value where you get the original BD sound intended by Korg. If you use a lower value than 2K2 you will have an initial longer decay and can increase the decay when decreasing the pot from e.g. 1K to 0 Ohms. If you have e.g. a 5K pot you again will have a very small range of decay control!<br /><br />Another way would be to replace the 300 Ohms by a 1K resistor and use a 1K pot. You will have nice control of the decay, but the you won't get the max decay that would be available with 300 Ohms.<br /><br />greets.ed.klaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16616450446788504170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7192795338796298675.post-89769547718138175562011-09-13T03:24:32.697-07:002011-09-13T03:24:32.697-07:00Japan - that´s where I am currently (for the last ...Japan - that´s where I am currently (for the last few years, mostly) but next month I will return to good old Germany (Karlsruhe) to finish some stuff.<br /><br />Log Pots are rare in Japan and 2k log pots do not exist here.<br /><br />Can I use other pot value like 1K log of 5K log?<br />some other schematics on Gearslutz even go as low as a 500ohm pot. <br /><br />cheers :)Markushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03622941499581690687noreply@blogger.com